Loved your explanation on the topic. My view on quality engineering is quite similar to what you described, and most of the time, is difficult to explain it or put it into words and you did it really well!! :)
Thanks, Fernando, and I'm glad to hear we're thinking along the same lines. My thoughts on Quality Engineering have been bubbling in my head for quite some time. Getting them out into this newsletter is really helpful in getting them clear and organised. One thing I do need is more examples from the real world of people working this way or similar. So, if you've any to share, I'd love to hear them.
From my practical experience, I have already worked on project for a short period, where me and another QA worked as a "platform team" (borrowed the concept from the Team Topologies book). As you described in your post, we were more responsible for the philosophy and framework part, where we tried to give people what was needed to build quality, going way beyond only testing.
The other companies that I have already seen something similar already being adapted generally use the term "Quality Assistance".
I can also really recommend the blog QEUnit from Antonie Craske, which also shares some interesting thoughts on this area :)
Thanks, Fernando, that’s a great example and something I’ve seen few QA people doing in teams. I’ve had similar conversations with QA Leads who have been unsure what their role in the team was as it felt like all they were doing was looking after other QA testers and were missing the hands-on part of the role. I’ve found using the philosophy and framework angle helpful in helping them see that they are still doing QA work but are more focused on building quality into teams through the people and processes. You can also see quality coaches falling more into the side of philosophy too.
I’ve not come across quality assistance before- I’ll check it out. Thanks!
Loved your explanation on the topic. My view on quality engineering is quite similar to what you described, and most of the time, is difficult to explain it or put it into words and you did it really well!! :)
Thanks, Fernando, and I'm glad to hear we're thinking along the same lines. My thoughts on Quality Engineering have been bubbling in my head for quite some time. Getting them out into this newsletter is really helpful in getting them clear and organised. One thing I do need is more examples from the real world of people working this way or similar. So, if you've any to share, I'd love to hear them.
From my practical experience, I have already worked on project for a short period, where me and another QA worked as a "platform team" (borrowed the concept from the Team Topologies book). As you described in your post, we were more responsible for the philosophy and framework part, where we tried to give people what was needed to build quality, going way beyond only testing.
The other companies that I have already seen something similar already being adapted generally use the term "Quality Assistance".
I can also really recommend the blog QEUnit from Antonie Craske, which also shares some interesting thoughts on this area :)
https://qeunit.com/blog/5-key-moves-from-quality-assurance-to-quality-assistance/
https://qeunit.com/blog/atlassian-from-quality-assurance-to-quality-assistance/
Thanks, Fernando, that’s a great example and something I’ve seen few QA people doing in teams. I’ve had similar conversations with QA Leads who have been unsure what their role in the team was as it felt like all they were doing was looking after other QA testers and were missing the hands-on part of the role. I’ve found using the philosophy and framework angle helpful in helping them see that they are still doing QA work but are more focused on building quality into teams through the people and processes. You can also see quality coaches falling more into the side of philosophy too.
I’ve not come across quality assistance before- I’ll check it out. Thanks!